The *Ranks*

[Akash Ki Jadugar]

What i want to say is lets discuss the qualifications rather than point out members, who have etc..so and so title,

Everybody gets advice from somewhere, doesn't make them less.

[Luis Alejandro]

Cd should not have a gfx title, i give him advice on how to improve his what you call * work* and he insults me back and acts to immaturely.
and really, doesn't know much about gfx.

ok, well, if someone told you how to improve your precious Lucario, wouldn't you be offended?

Your not understanding the point, he doesn't know much about gfx and has refused to improve.

[Akash Ki Jadugar]

So what do you think should be done about that?

[Nagato]

Cd should not have a gfx title, i give him advice on how to improve his what you call * work* and he insults me back and acts to immaturely.
and really, doesn't know much about gfx.

ok, well, if someone told you how to improve your precious Lucario, wouldn't you be offended?

Your not understanding the point, he doesn't know much about gfx and has refused to improve.

hmmm, I know a way to solve this. Rajaa, I would like to test Hollow boy about his gfx skills. I would like to call in some outside help from MI, since there are alot of GFX artists there.

[Luis Alejandro]

So what do you think should be done about that?

Save his title for later, right now he doesnt need it.
When his post's get higher and starts maker more and better sigs and such then before, then give his title back.

[Akash Ki Jadugar]

So what do you think should be done about that?

Save his title for later, right now he doesnt need it.
When his post's get higher and starts maker more and better sigs and such then before, then give his title back.

I see, it makes sense i don't think that people should have been given titles back again after the revert, so i'll see to it that we discuss the qualifications thoroughly.

This is what i think person for Instance like LaQuak, has creating many things and is vastly known do you not think he should become Contr. and yourself as soon as possible?..from what i seen around the community Laquak , you and me are referred to either togther 75% of the time together or separately. People know us as creators, do you not think that you should be given title on point?....

[MOTVN]

yeah why are Luis and LaQuak's title's gone? They both definitely deserve it, no questions asked

[Luis Alejandro]

No its ok i dont want it here, you can go ahead and give LaQuack his title.

[Akash Ki Jadugar]

that's not the point MOTVN  ,

[MOTVN]

ok so is your point "what does a person of this forum have to do to receive a title"?

if so, actively contribute then, isn't that the simple case everywhere? on a deeper level, sharing coding/graphic skills with newbies

for example

I have already posted all of my official work to date in support of the forum, which goes to say alot considering this forum is new
I don't even post my work on Infinity or Ascended and I haven't even joined Free-for-all
I support and contribute here because I want it to succeed

I was actually wondering why you and LaQuak have not posted your characters in the release thread yet
that thread desperately lacks character submissions

[LaQuak]

Ok. Even thought I don't like to look at other sites about how they handle ranks I will have to for this discussion as I see that this sites current ranking system is  mix of MFG, MI and IMT. Allow me to in-depth this even more.

Why is MFG ranking system effective:

Simple and effective. A "Contributor" is given to those who have been able to make some sort of Mugen contect. Character, Stage, Screenpack, Add-Ons ect. There is no buts, ifs and and about a "Contributor" in MFG. Those with "MFG Member" are no more then contributors who been in MFG for a while, thus have a link to their website on MFG site. With only one title like this, everybody is equal, no matter what that user made and has under his/her name as somebody who has made something for Mugen.

Why is MFG ranking system ineffective:

Its to simple. For instance, a Contributor with 10 or more characters is equivalent to a Contributor that has only made 1 stage. Thus, it makes it sightly unfair to somebody who spends time on creating a character for months to a person who creates a stage in one day. The diplomatic side of picking a "possible Contributor" is 50/50. As some people deserve it and some people just get it.

Why is MI ranking system effective:

Hosting, pleasing color choice and overall feel on one of the biggest American based Mugen forums. Hosting for EX Members is basicaly saying that "this member creates exclusevly for MI and has access to the Database". EX Members can act like Database Crew aswell, and have special access to hidden parts of the forum. Pleasing and easy on the eyes color choices and overall feel makes somebody with a rank at MI an important person.

Why is MI ranking system ineffective:

I read their explanation to what each rank is and does and I did understand some aspects of it. For instance it said that a "Mugen Creator/Mugen Creator EX = Somebody with a deep understanding of Mugen code and Mugen. EX has access to Database" I saw people with only 1 creation behind them with a Mugen Creator and thats where confusion began to pop up and thats why I asked the mods how their ranking system works. But thats not the point. Mugen Contributor/Contributor EX is basicaly the same thing as a Contributor at MFG and Contributor EX is the same thing as a MFG Network Member. So again its to simple and not many Ceators post at MI as many of those are vets at MFG.

Why is IMT ranking system effective:

Colorfull, playfull and everybody can get one. IMT has a title for alomost anything ranging from "Pallete Maker" to "Stage Creator" to "Contributor" to "Artist" ect. If you atlest make an attempt to make something for Mugen. You can have a title. With titles new hidden forums are open. Its a playfull kindergardern and many like it as there is no problem with that.

Why is IMT ranking systen ineffective:

Colorfull, playfull and everybody can get one. A pallete maker is known better then someone who creates a decent Mugen character. And that is as broad as I can get for obvious, self explanatory reasons.

My thoughts:

This forum needs to take all of those 3 major forums styles. Weed out the good and then bad and make a own style. I personaly do not think that somebody who makes palletes should hold a higher rank them somebody who spent months of a mugen character and that is that. I also don't think that we all need to have the same titles because we all specialize in different aspects of Mugen. Some are skilled with stages, some are with graphics, some with characters ect. ect. ad that is what seperates us in this and MFG and MI and IMT.

We are all friends here yes. We know what makes us other tick and our likes and dislikes. But right now this forum is weak because it doesn't have enough regular users/leecher. When a person has a good rank at a popular forum it may entice a fresh face to develop a craft at Mugen and try to get that title to show the community that "hey I really tried my harderst and now it paid off and when I post, people see me better and clearer". I can make an example of one person I know and that you all know very very well.

We need to find a centralized medium for ranks on this forum and it will be hard because other major forums do it expetionaly well.

[Akash Ki Jadugar]

So your suggesting we go back to how we had it to, but extra distinguishing titles?


so something like this would be better

Contributer- a Person who has made an Attempt to become part of the Mugen society works still need much more work.

-Characters Maker - Has made decent characters and is beyond first characters, and the second done is good.

-Character maker Plus(not a decided name just an example) - Has made 4-5 or ore characters that are great and have only  few errors during release,

-Stage Maker - Has made decent stages and is beyond first stage, and the second done is good.

-Stage maker Plus(not a decided name just an example) - Has made 4-5 or more stages that are great and have only  few errors during release,


-Graphics artist has made sprite edits/ portraits that are decent and can be used

-advanced graphics, knows their way around pallets-Editins-to Filtering etc.. like the back of their hand

Extra title to people who don't do anything but contribute something or enjoyment as well but not content

Video makers, etc...that way you don't find that normal members, are still in the same place as newbies.


My tak on the positions here.

[MOTVN]

*Ranks* -theft automatically strips you of rank and unless theft issue has been resolved member cannot hold a rank-

Contributor - Regularly submits work and consistently shows improvement

Palette Maker - has skill and consistency

Palette Artist - Palette Maker of exceptional skill and knowledge

Character Maker - same as Rajaa's

Character Specialist - same as Rajaa's

Character Master/Guru - highest level

Stage Maker - similar to Rajaa's

Stage Specialist - similar to Rajaa's

Stage Master/Guru - highest level

Graphics Contributor - similar to Rajaa's Graphic Artist

Graphics Artist - similar to Rajaa's Advanced Graphics

[LaQuak]

Whatever, I said what I wanted to say. Yall kids decide on whatever. I am set eather way...Veni, vidi, vici.

*walks away from this thread*

[Akash Ki Jadugar]

vici.